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 Post subject: Re: Hitler the jew and the faked world war II
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:22 am 
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About Operation Barbarossa, we can make these first observations.

Of course, Hitler had to make it quick. Otherwise, logically, England would have been destroyed. If not, it would have been very strange.

And he had to make USSR retreat a lot and in a short time, in order to be able to collect many jews.

And, of course, there are many discrepancies about the strategic an tactic choices of Hitler.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:08 pm 
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The Japanese war made no sense. Attacking China through Manchuria, and driving into Korea and Russia would have been the logical course for Japanese 'lebensraum'. Attacking the jUSA brought in a whole new supply of men and materials to sustain the Talmudists in London and Moscow. The ludicrous propaganda that the Axis nations sought to invade the continental USA can easily be dismissed when one considers that Canada was subservient to the British Empire, and would have thrown its full weight behind the USA if any part of North America was attacked. Only the enfeebled minds of those who have succumbed to the post-war media and mis-education systems could believe that Japan seriously posed a threat to the USA. Attacking the pacific outposts of the USA in preference to concentrating on the Asian mainland was suicide - and this was by design. The whole Second World War, was a well-orchestrated pantomime, albeit one with very real casualties.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 am 
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@Rufus

Absolutely. Excellent point.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitler the jew and the faked world war II
Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:16 am 
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About point 3 in the third message of this topic :

3) Hitler knew a two-front war was something he had to avoid at all costs. He told many times that it was that which had lead to the defeat during WWI. But what does he do ? He attacks USSR before having destroyed England, thus creating a... two-front war.


We could add that Hitler had to know that the USA would very probably get involved quite soon on the English side. They had already intervened during WWI, there was no reason that they wouldn't do it during WWII. And it was obvious that England would serve as a base to invade France. It was the only place where they could do it. So, invading England was an absolute necessity in order to be sure that the USA would be completely neutralized.

Without England, they couldn't do anything against Germany. With England still alive, it was sure that they would come and try to invade France and then Germany.

We use to think that there was only England involved on the west side, and so that there wasn't such a threat for Hitler there. But no. There was an enormous threat. And Hitler had to know that.

So, by opening a second front against the very powerful USSR, without trying anymore to invade England, Hitler had to know that it was nearly suicide.

We can also understand why the USA didn't declared war to Germany just after the English/French defeat, when the possibility of an invasion of England was very possible. Which is a very strange thing when you think about it. It was an obvious decision for the USA the decide to get involved. Especially when you think that it wasn't Gentile, but jews, who were at the head of these two countries (England an the USA). How could jews let Europe threaten to get lost and get back to a Goyim leader ? Impossible.

But if the USA had made that, the opening of a second front would have been a very strange decision from Hitler. He couldn't have made that with such a threat on his west side. But then, he wouldn't have been able to invade the east of Europe, and the USSR. Thus, he wouldn't have been able to gather jews, destroy their houses, steal their wealth, etc... And the war would have also lasted much longer.

So the USA had to wait. They had to wait that Hitler decides to make war to the USSR, and advances a lot into the Russian territory. And as the capture and the gathering of European jews is not something which could be done in only one year, they had to wait before invading Europe.

And as it wasn't Hitler who could force the USA to enter the war, it had to be Japan. This is why they attacked at Pearl Arbour.

And this is why Germany had to make an alliance with Japan. Without the Alliance, there was no reason for Germany to declare war on the USA.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:38 am 
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SerbdomFighter wrote:
The USSR retreated its troops during Operation Barbarossa? It makes sense, so would the war take more time and Hitler could prepare to finish his task. Do you have any sources about the retreat of the red army?


I just have the classical sources (books, Wikipedia). Germany attacked. One month after, they had taken 500 km of the USSR territory ; 6 months after, they had taken nearly 1000 km. So, it's obvious that the Soviet armies had retreated. This doesn't mean that they had only retreated, since there was a lot of prisoners made. But still, they had retreated.

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Also is strange that Japan didn't attack Soviet Union from east, so that it would be a two-front war. When the USA declared war on USA, Hitler declared war on USA. But Japan didn't declare war on Soviet Union, not even Hitler ordered the Japanese to do that.


Yes, very true. Hitler could have asked his allied to invade Soviet Union from the east. It would have been normal to ask this. And Japon was already in China. So, it wasn't so difficult for them to try to do that.


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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:25 am 
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SerbdomFighter wrote:
Do you know that Hitler postponed Operation Barbarossa by one month? He launched the Balkans campaign in order to invade the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Greece. Fascist Italy started its conquests in the Balkans before the WW2 started, Albania was conquered but the invasion of Greece failed. Prince Pavle of Yugoslavia was pressured by Hitler in 1939 to give (separatist) Croats more rights and to create "Banovina Croatia" (which happened with the so-called Cvetković-Maček agreement). Vlatko Maček, the leader of the HSS (Croatian Peasant Party), signed a secret agreement with Italian minister Galeazzo Ciano. That agreement contained the organization of 300.000 militant Croats (by Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany) who belonged to the HSS-party. According to the agreement, these Croatian paramilitary troops would be used to support Nazi Germany's invasion of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. In 1941, Hitler put pressure on the Kingdom of Yugoslavia to join the Tripartite pact. When the Kingdom of Yugoslavia joined the Tripartite pact, a military coup was performed in Belgrade that was supported by Great Britain. Prince Pavle of Yugoslavia was overthrown and Peter II was replaced on the throne. Hitler considered the military coup in Yugoslavia and the failure of the invasion of Greece as argument to launch an invasion against both countries. Great Britain supported the military coup in order to draw the Kingdom of Yugoslavia into a trap that justifies Hitler's plan to launch the Balkans campaign. King Peter II wanted to re-negotiate about the accession of the Tripartite Pact (after the military coup), but Hitler refused and prepared the invasion.When Nazi Germany and other Axis powers invaded the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, the Croatian paramilitary forces attacked the Yugoslav army. During the bombing of Belgrade, 10.000 - 20.000 Serbs were killed. When the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was defeated and divided into pieces, the Nazis ordered a law that for every one of their soldiers who was killed they would execute 100 Serbs and for every wounded soldier, 50 Serbs. The Nazis collaborated with the Yugoslav communists and signed even agreements with them for the common struggle against the royal Chetniks.



Interesting. But for the moment, I don't see a lot of discrepancies here regarding the official history.

Maybe the organization of 300.000 Croatian militants is shady. How could they know that they would need 300.000 guys ? But maybe official historians could answer that it was to control the country once invaded.

However, it shows the importance of having with us people of specific areas involved during the war. Without you, we wouldn't have those kinds of information. I hope we will have people from Germany, Finland, Russia or Japan joining, in order to have specific informations about those countries.

Edit : but, of course, the fact that Hitler helped the communist against the Chetnik is a discrepancy.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitler the jew and the faked world war II
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:23 am 
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SerbdomFighter wrote:
These 300.000 Croats belonged to the "Croatian Peasant Defense" and "Croatian Civil Defense". It's almost impossible to find informations about that, but you can find informations about these both forces. The invasion of Yugoslavia needed only two weeks. Yugoslav army was over 800.000 man strong, more than the Axis army who invaded Yugoslavia. If you think about the 300.000 Croats who attacked the Yugoslav army from inside, you will understand why Yugoslavia was defeated after two weeks.


Didn't know that. Interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitler the jew and the faked world war II
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SerbdomFighter wrote:
I think that Hitler ordered the Japanese to attack USA.


I think that Japan was already controlled by jews. Their strange behavior shows that.


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There is another discrepancy about the reactions of the USSR. You have a country totally controlled by jews (USSR). Another country totally controlled by jews (France). So, we are talking about merciless guys who will do anything in order to keep the power. France is attacked by an antisemitic leader (Hitler). This leader could then control the biggest part of Europe and then destroy the Jewish influence there. USSR could destroy German armies by forcing them to defend a second front. And what does the USSR do ? Nothing.

It's impossible. But once again, it makes perfectly sense if the war was staged by Jewish leaders themselves.

Even with the orthodox version of history, the behavior of USSR is very suspicious. Stalin had to know what Hitler had said about Slavs and what were his intentions about Slavic countries. He had to know that Hitler would attack the USSR once the French army defeated. So the decision of doing nothing is still very strange.


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Thinking about that, I think we can understand why Germany attacked Poland before attacking France. The attack of Poland before France was very dangerous. France and England could have attacked Hitler in the back. So, logically, Hitler should have attacked France by surprise before attacking Poland. France and England were the main threat, not Poland.

But then, the non intervention of USSR would have been very strange. So, Jewish leaders had to explain why the USSR wouldn't intervene. With the soviet-German pact (a treaty of Non-Aggression), they could explain that. So, Germany had to make a treaty with USSR. And the treaty had to be based on an important goal. This is the reason of the invasion of Poland by both countries. But then, Jewish leader could have reversed the order of the two invasions without creating too much discrepancies. USSR could have waited that Hitler destroys the English-French armies before attacking Poland with Germany. But attacking Poland first could allow to explain better the non intervention of Stalin during the war against France. Because then, this is France and England which have declared war on Germany, not the opposite. So with Germany being the attacked, Jewish leaders could justify the non intervention of USSR.

So because of that, Jewish leaders were obliged to have Hitler making war on Poland before making it on France.


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